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Poster: cd bodhi Date: Aug 28, 2014 6:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Andy Griffith - Clarence White

Here's another pretty cool connection/coincidence?. These Griffith Show clips feature a very young Clarence White.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEJywMQseuo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpKhWePGNPc

You know him from the Byrds and the original "bluegrass supergroup" Muleskinner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RkxpFvo__k

Jerry was a huge Clarence White fan.
http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2010/08/byrds-and-dead.html

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Poster: Reade Date: Aug 30, 2014 8:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Andy Griffith - Clarence White

I really enjoyed these links. Thank you.

What I've never heard speculated upon is how it seems that Old and In the Way would never have happened had it not been for White's death in July '73?
(Killed by a drunk driver at 2 AM while loading gear into a vehicle following an impromtu Kentucky Colonels reunion gig- Wikipedia).

The bluegrass group Muleskinner had just been formed with White, Grisman and Rowan among others; the timing seems right as I don't think there was any OAITW activity before July, but there was soon after!

The way events unfold sometimes can be mind-boggling. No OAITW if not for Whites extremely improbable, senseless and tragic death? Crazy.

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Poster: cd bodhi Date: Aug 30, 2014 12:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Andy Griffith - Clarence White

Good question. Not sure why things transpired as they did. Of course the loss of Clarence White would be immeasurable but seems Jerry was stepping in for Bill Keith on banjo. (Imagine OAITW with both Jerry and Clarence had he survived!) Also important to note that, although he wasn't present at that linked television special, John Kahn was Muleskinner bassist.

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Poster: Reade Date: Aug 30, 2014 12:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Andy Griffith - Clarence White

Good point. Duh.
So how was it that Bill Keith dropped out of the mix? I wonder if Jerry replaced him, ie Keith drifted off to something else, or was he shown the door once Jerry expressed interest in joining the lineup?

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Poster: cd bodhi Date: Aug 30, 2014 6:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Andy Griffith - Clarence White

I'm not surprised to discover that this fascinating topic has been covered at length and, as usual, I was clueless.
I think you will enjoy reading this as much as I did just now. http://lostlivedead.blogspot.com/2010/11/1972-73-muleskinnerold-and-in-way.html

Are there any GD/related topics left at this point that haven't already been thoroughly investigated? Did the Black Mountain Boys appear on The Andy Griffith Show maybe? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR2WKsDX1xE

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Poster: Reade Date: Aug 31, 2014 9:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Andy Griffith - Clarence White

That blog was quite a read. Talk about exhaustive detail. Whew.

What I find so interesting and odd is how Muleskinner and OAITW were essentially parallel undertakings; going on at the same time with- for the most part -the same personnel.
The fervor to play that kind of music must've been very strong in late '72 and early '73. Strong enough for a core group of guys to form two bands at the same time! (I dunno. I'd probably understand it better if I had ever been in the position of being a musician and trying to make a living at it.)

But odd too how neither lineup- despite this early 70s bluegrass fever -lasted very long. I guess White's death was pretty much Muleskinners undoing, and the gravity of the Dead universe constantly pulling Garcia towards it and away from anything else he ever found himself doing meant OAITW never had much of a chance.

I remember reading once comments I think Rowan made about said Dead universe at the time. He talked about the sheer size of it, and the enormous vibe around it. Such that when he was behind the amps one night at a Dead gig (the November Winterland run perhaps?) Garcia looked right through him, totally gone in the moment, wrapped up in this massive undertaking, this distinctly separate universe with a very different energy and scale.

Thanks for all the links. Good good stuff.